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This is a list of books published by indie publishers that feature an asexual-identified POV character, or the POV character's love interest, in a romantic plot/major subplot. I've excluded self-published books just because it's harder for me to keep track of the details in those books, as well as because of the lack of gatekeeping with self-publishing. (Also excluded: YA books, because YA tends to skew to less discussion of sex by genre default.)

Books listed under the cut )

So...yeah, sex-repulsed asexuals are really not well represented, particularly in the romance genre. (I think, with regard to traditionally published books and non-romance books, sex-repulsed asexuals are primarily represented by aro-ace characters, which is obviously not the same thing.)

Which sort of lends credibility to my argument that gray-aces/demisexuals/sex-positive aces of any romantic orientation would be more welcome by the general (presumed non-asexual) reader body than sex-repulsed heteroromantic aces—the idea of not desiring sex at all is seen as more subversive than a LGBP romantic orientation. (Which isn't even getting into issues with fetishization of M/M sex.)

Yes, of course demisexuals, gray-aces, and sex-positive aces deserve representation too. But sex-repulsed aces currently have almost no fictional representation, and that's something I wish people would take into account.

When the vast majority of books with asexuals show those asexuals as only able to be in a romantic relationship if they're willing to have sex to some degree, that sends a message that alloromantic sex-repulsed aces have no hope of finding romance (unless they find another alloromantic sex-repulsed/indifferent ace—which is a fine solution, but in real life, the statistics of that happening are on the low side). It reinforces the idea that sex-repulsed asexuals (and sex-repulsed non-asexuals, for that matter) are still freakish deviants, as well as the idea that there's only One Real Way to have a romantic relationship, and that involves sex, instead of presenting different kinds of romantic relationships.

I'd hope that, in the future, we can get to the point as which writers can let go of the sex = love framework, because alloromantic sex-repulsed aces deserve to believe they can have happy endings, too.
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Sort of a sequel to my previous post, since the same book I was talking about there provoked this post as well.

(Content warning: discussion of sexual assault in a fictional context)

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Disclaimer before I start: I'm asexual but not demisexual. If any demis want to chime in with their experiences, please feel free.

So I started thinking about this topic after reading a review for a book with a demisexual character. This is a book I've wanted to get my hands on, but haven't been able to as of yet, so unfortunately I can't speak about my own take on the book. Anyway, this is a book about a demisexual character—however, the character is never explicitly stated to be demisexual in the text (only on the publisher's website), which is a problem we'll get back to soon. The reviewer (who thought the protagonist was ace-spec but didn't know he was demisexual) basically said they were uncomfortable with how the demisexual character progressed from total sex repulsion to interest in sex as soon as his love interest showed up, linking it to harmful messages about how ace people are often pressured with regards to "just wait until the right person comes along, and then you'll be interested in having sex/sexually attracted to them."

There's a lot to unpack here, and I'll do my best to cover all my bases.

First thing I want to get out of the way is that I'm not sure whether this is an #ownvoices story about demisexuality or not. Normally, I am 100% not a fan of asking authors to out themselves with regard to sexual orientation, but whether this is an #ownvoices story or not could change the optics of it. If the author is ace-spec, I'd be more hesitant about criticizing the portrayal of demisexuality, as I'm not demisexual (even though #ownvoices isn't a shield against producing problematic content). If the author isn't, then I'd be a lot more openly critical of the rep. I am extremely wary of when allosexual (non-asexual) authors write about asexuals who begin as sex-repulsed and then progress to "Oh, but I'm okay with sex if it's with you, Designated Love Interest." There is an element of—to me—almost fetishization of ace-spectrum identities, positing their sex-repulsion as an obstacle to a romantic relationship to be overcome, in a way that is very loaded coming from an allosexual author.

Another issue with if the book isn't #ownvoices goes to accuracy. Again, I can't speak to the demisexual experience. But, based on my own cursory research, many demisexuals seem to report that it can take quite a long time for them to develop sexual attraction to someone they have a close relationship with. Whereas, in the book, reviewers report that the sexual attraction seems to happen quite quickly. Again, not saying that that's completely impossible, but the optics of it are different if written by an allosexual writer vs. a demisexual author.

The next thing is, clearly, the book suffers from not explicitly identifying the protagonist as demisexual in the text. Given that that kind of narrative could be less problematic with a demisexual character than with a not-demi ace character, it becomes critical to make that clear in the book, which this book failed to do.

So let's go to the next issue, which is: assuming the portrayal of the demisexual character is authentic to at least some demis' experiences, does this nevertheless create a problem with making sure we don't convey the message that asexuals can be "cured" by meeting the right person?

Again, there's a confounding factor at play here, and that's that demisexuality tends to be represented only in one very specific way, by usually allosexual writers (so far), and that's: demisexual is sex-repulsed and/or uninterested in sex, until they meet the "right person," and now suddenly they are down for sex with Mr./Ms./Mx. Right 24/7.

Right now, we don't have portrayals of demisexuals who have a low libido even once they experience sexual attraction to someone, and/or demisexuals who may still experience sex repulsion after meeting Mr./Ms./Mx. Right. And that becomes a problem, again, when allosexual writers are dominating the portrayal of demisexual characters right now. (A cynical view could be that some of said writers want to write "cured asexual" narratives but know enough to know that that's offensive, so they go, "Okay, let me just make the character demisexual instead!")

My point is: Everyone deserves to have their experiences represented, of course. But, while I'm not arguing for this portrayal of demisexuality to be banned, I think authors have to be very careful with this narrative, because it does lead to splash damage for non-demi asexuals.

Asexuals are very, very vulnerable to sexual coercion. Many aces, too, spend years questioning themselves, wondering, "But what if I *do* experience sexual attraction at some later point? Maybe I'm not really asexual?" Rates of sexual assault against asexuals are not well studied, but some evidence suggests that asexuals experience higher rates of assault than most other sexual orientations (excepting bisexuals). You can draw your own conclusions about how allosexual sexual predators view asexuals from that data.

So I get nervous whenever I see a narrative about a sex-repulsed asexual who "learns" to like sex because of Mr./Ms./Mx. Right. I just can't be certain that an allosexual reader won't read that narrative and take away the idea that "don't worry, sex-repulsed asexuals can still learn to like sex after meeting the 'right' person."

If you're an allosexual author, there's an easy way out: Just don't make your ace-spec character sex-repulsed! Problem solved! Don't use sex-repulsion as an obstacle to be overcome in your romance, because all that does is throw sex-repulsed aces who will never "learn" to like sex or experience sexual attraction to the wolves.

And, again, even if it's a demisexual author writing about their own demisexual experiences? If you frame it that way, you have to be aware of the possibility of splash damage to other aces.

This is not, by the way, something unique to this situation. Writers can write about gay characters feeling pressured by heteronormativity to date the opposite binary gender but, if they're not careful, can end up throwing bisexuals under the bus, for example. Lateral oppression between different axes of marginalization happens all the damn time. And it's never okay.

Don't throw other marginalized groups under the bus. Just don't do it. No matter how strongly you feel about your own experiences as a marginalized person, there's always a way to frame it to be inclusive instead of harmful to some other group.


**EDITED TO ADD: I found these relevant twitter threads from gray-aces/demis:

https://twitter.com/SH_Marr_Writes/status/919984008402014208

https://twitter.com/mixeduppainter/status/920005662666575873

So it sounds like I was right to be intuitively wary of "character is gray-ace/demisexual, meets Right Person, BAM basically allosexual" narratives.
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(EDIT 2: I keep on adding to this post, so I almost feel like I have to overhaul it at some point. The rest of my additions are below.)

The "Allo Savior" idea is described here.

For me, I think the "Allo Savior" shouldn't necessarily cover situations in which an allosexual character tells an asexual-but-they-don't-realize-it-yet character what asexuality is, if the asexual character then goes "Omg, that sounds like me!" Providing information about asexuality, to me, shouldn't necessarily be the problem (though, of course, it's generally more realistic/empowering if the information comes from a fellow ace character).

What is a problem for me—the cases in which I personally invoke the "Allo Savior" trope—is when the allosexual character goes "Hey, I think you're asexual because of XYZ reasons." I am generally uncomfortable with situations in which someone labels another person's sexual orientation, especially because the idea of "do you or do you not feel sexual attraction" is so personal, and because many allosexuals are not good at distinguishing romantic and sexual attraction themselves. Also, because in reality, allosexual people (a) are unlikely to come to the conclusion that their partner might be asexual, because (b) they will often have extremely negative reactions to it themselves, instead of being a "savior"-type character.

The most extreme and negative example of the "Allo Savior" comes from Antisocial by Heidi Cullinan. Not only does the allosexual character tell the asexual character he's probably asexual, and he has a bizarre "asexual spidey sense" that gives him more insight into the other character's asexuality than the character does himself, the asexual character is filled with self-loathing and literally unable to accept that he could be asexual until the allosexual character professes his love and assures him that his feelings for him are not impacted by his asexuality.

That is not an asexual-positive narrative.

Dealing with internalized -ism/-phobia/-misia is always a very delicate task, because yes, it's realistic, but without a deft hand and/or an #ownvoices perspective, it can come off as gratuitously drowning the character and, by extension, the reader, in pervasive (in this case) acephobia, and authors have to realize that that is often toxic for readers from the marginalized group that they're actually writing about.

Secondly, from a healthy relationship and self-esteem standpoint, it's dangerous for any one person to base their self-worth and self-acceptance on external factors, such as acceptance by another person. Dangerous, because it can make that person vulnerable to manipulation or abuse. But even in benign scenarios, a relationship is not healthy if one person will not just grieve or experience depression, but experience total personal collapse if the other person leaves. Drawing strength from another person does not equal being codependent with them.

Any kind of narrative in which a marginalized person has to be "rescued" from their own self-loathing and tragic life by another person is not a healthy or empowering narrative. It's basically telling people (aces/questioning aces, in this case) that "Your life will be tragic unless you can find the one magic allosexual person who can save you from your self-hatred by accepting you for who you are." It's patronizing.



*EDIT: Apparently I'm not done talking about this book.

I'm very curious as to a gray-ace's take on its accuracy; since I'm not gray-ace, I can't speak to it myself. However, I'm very uncomfortable with how the narrative frames Xander (the allosexual) as the catalyst for Skylar's (the gray-ace's) sexual awakening. It reminds me of books like Fifty Shades of Grey (I know that's an extreme example, sorry) in which a virgin who has no knowledge of sex is educated by Douchebag Hot Guy her One True Love. The narrative becomes even more loaded when you introduce an asexual-spectrum character into the mix.

The fact that the book has a sustained conversation in which Skylar refuses a label also makes me uncomfortable. Yes, in real life, there are people who don't like to label their sexuality, and that's fine. However, given the continuing stigma around asexuality and how rarely, still, it's portrayed in fiction, there's a negative connotation around asexual characters refusing the asexual label; it feels like it contributes to the negative stigma around proclaiming that you're asexual.


*EDIT 2:

Normally, I'm all for books with an asexual-spectrum protagonist and allosexual love interest where the ace-spec character doesn't have to have sex to have a fulfilling relationship. In fact, normally, I'm dying for such books. However, while Antisocial does this, it also weirdly counterbalances it by portraying touches like hand-holding to be intensely sexual instead, and that's...really, really strange.

Especially because neither Skylar nor Xander are explicitly stated to be touch-sensitive. So, from my cynical standpoint, it almost feels like the author was still thinking in an allosexual framework and just substituted touching for sex. Which...isn't really the point of being asexual. I mean, some aces find intimate touches very pleasing, but the point is, it's not equivalent to sex in terms of being a sexual experience.

Call me a cynic, but I'm also unsure why the author chose to portray Skylar as gray-ace instead of just ace, because Skylar doesn't seem to experience any kind of sexual attraction in the book at all. He could've been "just" asexual and it wouldn't have changed the story.
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I saw a book reviewer make this comment—that he couldn't enjoy a book about an asexual romance (although my understanding was that it was a gray asexual romance) because a sexless romance, to him, felt "immature" and therefore "squicky" because it made him feel like a voyeur into "teenage puppy love."

That comment made me feel sick.

It may seem less blatantly acephobic than a lot of other comments asexuals get, but it's acephobic nonetheless because it's positing asexual romantic attraction as "childish," "not as mature" as "adult" romance which by necessity must involve sex and sexual attraction.

Also, logically, it makes no sense. A lot of YA romances these days involve sexual attraction on some level (though it's often desexualized relative to adult romance/erotica). But even a sexual relationship can be written in an immature way.

The difference—which is something that depresses me to think about—is that people are conditioned to view sexual relationships as "automatically" *mature* and *adult.* So you could write about a sexual relationship between two characters who whine and complain at each other and throw tantrums, OR between two characters who are very mushy and lovey-dovey and serenade each other with their undying love every single day, but it will STILL be considered "adult" as long as they're shown having sex.

That's not only acephobic, it's also incredibly reductive regarding what exactly is "mature" and what is "immature."

And I'm really goddamn sick of it.
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Someone on Twitter: "Stop saying there's so little asexual representation in fiction [apparently because it's minimizing the representation that does exist (?)]"

...There is very little asexual representation in fiction. This is a goddamned fact.

Saying there is very little asexual representation...does NOT mean "I don't care about the asexual rep that does exist"??? Why do I even have to say this?????

I specifically follow queer indie publishers because they're more likely to publish books with asexual characters/relationships, and I STILL found very little asexual rep. And because asexual experiences can be so diverse, that means that just because a book has an asexual character doesn't necessarily mean every asexual reader can identify with the character (*raises hand*). So, for example, the kind of asexual character that I, personally, can identify with? I've literally read only 2 books where I saw that kind of character. Compared to, like, hundreds of books about allosexual gay/bi characters and thousands of books about heterosexual characters. There is no contest.

...I don't even know anymore.


(2)

Seeing people on Twitter like "OMG this book explicitly has the word 'bisexual' in it! I'm in love!!"

...And all I can think is, "Do you...not read queer romance...at all?"

So many of them have characters who are bisexual, who explicitly identify as bisexual and use the word "bisexual" in the text. Like...this might be rare in trad pub (traditional publishing), but it is not at ALL rare in queer romance/queer fiction.

Sigh.
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Concourse by Santino Hassell - DNF

Recently I've been reading some of Hassell's books (see also the previous entry) since he apparently seems to be a popular MM author, but aside from Hard Wired (which he was one of the co-authors for), I'm having a hard time figuring out why he's so well-regarded, and Concourse is a pretty stark example of that for me.

(Unless his books are popular because they have copious sex scenes...)

So, Concourse. Childhood friends to lovers is one of my favorite romance tropes ever, and yet...this book didn't do it for me at all. In fact, the further I read, the LESS I understood why Val and Ashton were attracted to each other. They're completely different and don't seem to have much common ground or qualities they admire each other for. And I'm 200% NOT a fan of books that rely entirely on UST/characters who angst about not being able to bone each other for convoluted emotional reasons for most of the book. It's boring and annoying to me to read. (Like, at least give me magic or political intrigue or things blowing up to keep me otherwise entertained.)

I'm also not a fan of the way the book handled Val's demisexuality (and apparently I'm in the minority here, but oh well). First, it's kind of the "allo savior trope" (non-asexual person tells asexual person that they're asexual) that some people dislike. I'm more ambivalent about the trope myself, but I thought I'd put a warning just in case.

What bothered me a lot more was how Ashton's queer friends kept calling Val "some kind of straight"/"heteroflexible" once they hear that Val rarely dates and the only guy he's had feelings for is Ashton, even though Val himself doesn't identify as such and he's also only ever had feelings for 1 girl/woman in his life.

Yes, Ashton does tell them not to call him that, but the default assumption that asexual-spectrum identities are "some kind of straight" is extremely harmful. (It would be like calling bisexual people by default "some kind of straight.") For one, not all ace-spectrum people are heteroromantic, and erasing bi/pan-romantic aces is not cool. And assuming aromantic/aro-spec asexuals are straight is violent erasure considering that Actual Straights (heteroromantic+heterosexual people) don't consider aro-aces straight at all. But even for heteroromantic aces, some don't want to be called straight because they don't want to be lumped in with Actually Straight people when Actually Straight people are often very acephobic, including toward hetero aces.

And seriously, enough with singling out ace-spectrum identities as "some kind of straight" as opposed to every other letter under the LGBTQ+ as "queer enough." I'm really, really tired of that.
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So, for those who aren't aware of BookTwitter debates (which I assume is most of the world), recently there's been talk of the upcoming book Vanilla by Billy Merrell, and how the blurb seems to be somewhat acephobic, and it became a conversation about whether or not people are allowed to make judgments about books from their blurbs or not.

This debate actually made me realize that, while other aces have been badly burned by acephobic books, I've somehow become so jaded toward acephobia that I'll still read books that might end up being acephobic, just so I can critically tear them apart for being acephobic afterwards.

I guess it's a result of spending my time in the romance genre, the vast majority of which perpetuate the idea that sex = love, but in a way, I've become so used to seeing that association that it doesn't necessarily hurt me, emotionally. Or at least, I have a standing expectation of being disappointed by depictions of asexuals in fictional romantic relationships. That's how jaded I am.

(Or maybe it's just that the threshold of what hurts me is different than for other people. These days, I tend to be way more hurt by books that sell me an asexual romance and then end up portraying an ace character who's totally eager and fine with having sex.)

So I plan to read Vanilla when it comes out, unless I see other people posting comprehensive reviews on the book being acephobic. (Though I'm also kind of concerned by the implication in the summary that it's a poetry novel, because I really don't like poetry novels.) I do think Vanilla is a ridiculous name (and I'm pretty sure a real life boy with that name would get mercilessly teased), and it is concerning that the book summary seems to imply Vanilla is aro-ace but only calls him ace. To me, the blurb is vague enough that I'm not completely pessimistic, though I could easily see the book becoming acephobic if Vanilla was a gay ace and his aceness caused his boyfriend to leave him. And if Vanilla is aro-ace...just saying, aro-aces can be in romantic relationships too, if they wanted to be.
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I saw someone on Twitter basically say that a certain character from a book, who was aro-ace only by Word of God, had been "straightwashed" because "cis heteroromantic aces are more palatable to Straight people."

I mean, maybe that's true vis-à-vis aro-aces—though, technically, any alloromantic ace is going to be "more palatable to Straight people" than an aro-ace—but I don't know if that's really true in general. Personally, I don't feel like a completely sex-repulsed heteroromantic ace is "more palatable" to a Straight person than a gay demisexual or gray-ace.

I also feel like there's a misconception that among the tiny pool of asexual representation, sex-repulsed aces are well-represented, which is why there's often a push to represent demisexuals, gray-aces, and sex-positive asexuals. But that is actually pretty untrue. I can count on one hand the number of books I've read/am aware of that featured an asexual who managed to find a happy romantic relationship where sex wasn't required. Every other romance that I've read/seen with an ace-spectrum character (as a leading character, not a minor character) was about a demisexual, gray-ace, or sex-positive asexual.

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So...yeah, sex-repulsed asexuals are really not well represented, particularly in the romance genre. (I think, with regard to traditionally published books and non-romance books, sex-repulsed asexuals are primarily represented by aro-ace characters.)

Which sort of lends credibility to my argument that gray-aces/demisexuals/sex-positive aces of any romantic orientation would be more welcome by the general (presumed non-asexual) reader body than sex-repulsed heteroromantic aces—the idea of not desiring sex at all is seen as more subversive than a LGBP romantic orientation.

Yes, of course demisexuals, gray-aces, and sex-positive aces deserve representation too. But sex-repulsed aces currently have almost no fictional representation, and that's something I wish people would take into account.

When the vast majority of books with asexuals show those asexuals as only able to be in a romantic relationship if they're willing to have sex to some degree, that sends a message that alloromantic sex-repulsed aces have no hope of finding romance (unless they find another alloromantic sex-repulsed/indifferent ace—which is a fine solution, but in real life, the statistics of that happening are on the low side). It reinforces the idea that sex-repulsed asexuals (and sex-repulsed non-asexuals, for that matter) are still freakish deviants, as well as the idea that there's only One Real Way to have a romantic relationship, and that involves sex, instead of presenting different kinds of romantic relationships.

I'd hope that, in the future, we can get to the point as which writers can let go of the sex = love framework, because alloromantic sex-repulsed aces deserve to believe they can have happy endings, too.
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I was reading a conversation on a blog about this issue, and well...I have thoughts. This is going to be more like a bullet-pointed stream-of-consciousness rant than an organized essay, so bear with me.


- Q: "Where are all the asexual female characters?"

I wanted to start with this because I think one's perception of there being *tons* of male asexual characters may be skewed depending on what one's reading. If you look at publishers like Dreamspinner Press/Harmony Ink and Riptide Publishing, well of course most of the asexual characters there (not that there are a ton) are going to be male, because those publishers started out by publishing M/M romance/erotica, and DSP still only publishes M/M romance/erotica.

However, if you look a traditional publishing, you'll notice a different story. There are even fewer explicitly asexual characters in traditional publishing, but of the ones I know of, they are overwhelmingly female. See: Quicksilver by R.J. Anderson; Clariel by Garth Nix; Every Heart a Doorway by Seanan McGuire; the upcoming Tash Hearts Tolstoy by Kathryn Ormsbee.

And...look, there's a huge gender stereotyping issue here.

I'm not saying "don't represent asexual girls/women." However, asexuality is often stereotyped as something "only girls/women identify as." Part of it, I'm guessing, is that men are less likely to identify as asexual due to the pressures caused by toxic masculinity and the expectation that men are hypersexual. (Also, I have a strong suspicion that men who technically fit the definitition of asexuality, but are sex-positive or sex-neutral and are willing to have sex to please their partner, just won't identify as asexual to begin with.) But part of it is plain old vintage misogyny: for years, women were *expected* to be *sexually passive* and/or have a low sex drive. (If you really want to see this in action, look no further than the vitriolic acephobia on Tumblr: acephobes assume all asexuals are "women who don't want to f**k their boyfriends and therefore think that makes them queer.")

Given that context, having asexual male characters in fiction is revolutionary. It's pushing back against the narratives of sexism and toxic masculinity. This is not a bad thing, for sure.


- Q: "We need more asexual romances with gray-aces/sex-positive aces!"

...I've strongly considered not saying anything about this issue at all, considering that it's hard to make the point I want to make without seeming like I'm trampling on sex-positive aces and ace-spectrum people who rarely experience sexual attraction. And yet it's been bugging me a lot, so here goes.

My gut reaction when hearing a question like the one above is: "If you want a story about an asexual character who enjoys sex in a sexual relationship, is there much of a point in making the character asexual to begin with?"

Full disclosure: I'm not a gray-ace and I'm sex-averse. Probably that makes my experience of asexuality different from aces who enjoy sex/experience sexual attraction. But my sex repulsion is strongly linked with my asexuality—not in a causal sense, but that I can't separate one from the other. I suspect that other sex-repulsed asexuals might share a similar experience. It's also, by far, my sex repulsion rather than my asexuality per se that has caused me to receive grief from heterosexual people. If I told my mom, for example, "I don't experience sexual attraction, but I'd be willing to have sex with a partner," she would stop bothering me about my sexual orientation. Period. Also, I'd like to remind everyone that according to a survey, over 50% of asexuals reported being sex-repulsed, so sex repulsion disproportionately affects asexual-identified people.

Like...it's a given that not all allosexual people are sex-crazed horndogs, yes? And that there are plenty of allosexual people who would rather not have sex unless they're in a serious relationship. So the boundaries between "a romance between an ace person who still enjoys sex with their non-ace partner" and "a romance between two people in which lust isn't written as a driving force in the relationship" are pretty fuzzy to me.

(Which is, by the way, the reason why I wrote my novel as an asexual romance and yet still felt compelled to explicitly state that my protagonist was asexual—because I knew that, even though I didn't write my protagonist as experiencing sexual attraction at all, non-asexual readers are unlikely to pick that up.)

I get that the lack of sexual attraction itself is a sticking point in some relationships (after having read some Reddit posts). But by far the ostracization of asexual people and asexual relationships seems to me to be centered on not having sex/not enjoying sex. And, on a personal level, the biggest struggle I face as an asexual person is fear that I will not be able to find a romantic relationship because I am sex-repulsed.

Basically, if we're talking about deviations from heteronormativity/compulsory sexuality, a romantic relationship without sex is far more likely to be seen as "other" than a relationship in which "we have sex sometimes when my partner's willing."

I don't have anything against gray-ace/demisexual romances, but I'd prefer if they're explicitly labelled as such. We are far from any kind of saturation point regarding sex-averse asexual characters in fiction, and to me, it's still very necessary to have more romances that show alternatives to sex in a romantic relationship are possible.
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I was thinking some more about Bender by Gene Gant (which I've talked about before here), and I was trying to reconcile my discomfort with the culmination of the romantic storyline being a sexual relationship, with the fact that aces can and do have sex, and I think I've come to a conclusion.

If, as in Bender, an author wants to write a conventional romance with the climax/high point being sex between the romantic leads...why bother writing about an asexual character at all?

To be clear, I'm not saying every asexual character in fiction must be sex-repulsed, but here's one example of what I mean from (to date) my favorite book with asexual rep, All the Wrong Places by Ann Gallagher: both romantic leads (who are both ace) have had sex with past partners, and both are described as sex-indifferent/sex-neutral, but their romantic relationship with each other never treats sex as the best part. In fact, they don't have sex at all, and they're still happy and madly in love with each other.

Aside from the fact that, in Bender, the protagonist's asexuality is used to set up his tragic backstory and current circumstances (which...also makes me a little uncomfortable, mostly on a personal level)...the entire story could've worked with him not being asexual at all. To wit:


Mace, the bisexual protagonist, has emotional issues due to [insert any reason here, frankly], which causes him to drink too much at a party one night and accidentally cause the death of his younger brother. Filled with self-loathing and severely depressed, he turns to self-harming sex work, and he's only dragged out of his funk by the concern of his dorm RA, Dex, who also becomes his love interest. They begin a relationship with special, fulfilling sex (that's completely different from the self-harming sex Mace has been engaged in up to now) and Mace finally takes steps to improving his mental health.


In fact, the story arguably could've worked better if Mace hadn't been asexual, because it would've avoided the confusion of "If Mace had previously been described as somewhat sex-repulsed, and also not graysexual or demisexual, why is he suddenly very much into sex with Dex?"

Asexuality is not a modifier (despite what some acephobes on Tumblr claim); it's its own sexual orientation, with a fundamentally different romantic experience from heterosexual/gay/lesbian/bisexual relationships. Not every book about an asexual character has to explore asexuality in depth, but if the asexuality is going to be treated as an important part of the character's identity (in the course of a romantic plot), then that difference should be highlighted.
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(Content warning: This book contains physical assault, sexual assault, alcohol abuse, self-harm, and depression. Also, SPOILERS.)

This is...going to be a complicated set of thoughts.

I'm no stranger to books about heavy topics—hell, I write books about heavy topics—but Bender made me feel kind of depressed. The combination of depression and self-destructive sex work—driven by the protagonist's angst over his asexuality—along with physical assault and rape was a bit too much for me. Considering all that, the ending felt too neat and tidy, as well.

And let's talk about the ending, and the book's overall messages concerning asexuality.


Was I the only one who felt deeply uncomfortable with Mace and Dex having a sexual relationship so quickly, knowing that Mace was engaging in a purposely self-destructive, self-harming kind of sex work? Also knowing that Mace seemed to be pretty sex-repulsed before Jamie's death? I mean, maybe the trauma of Jamie's death made him hypersexual, but that wasn't explained. Which is a problem in and of itself.

Yes, some aces are sex-neutral or sex-positive and engage in sex to please their partner. But because of Mace's particular situation, the way he kept insisting "Please have sex with me, Dex! Even though I'm not aroused or sexually attracted to you, I want to make you happy!" gave off...kind of creepy abuse-victim-like vibes to me, instead of being romantic.

To me, the biggest promise of having alloromantic asexual characters is to change the conversation about what romantic intimacy means, showing that there are ways to be happy in a romantic relationship that don't involve sex. Otherwise, we never escape the paradigm of "asexual = abnormal," and if you're a sex-repulsed asexual (as the majority of asexuals are) who wants a romantic relationship, instead of sex-positive or sex-neutral, you're completely screwed. (Metaphorically, of course.)

Bender still ends by portraying Mace's sexual relationship with Dex as "special" and fulfilling (right down to saying it's "making love" instead of "having sex"). To me, it veers uncomfortably close to the "Magical Healing Sex" trauma stories that I loathe, and it's also far too close to a "Asexual Gets 'Cured' By Having Sex With The Right Person" narrative. It still shows sex as being the inalienable core of a romantic relationship, even for an asexual character with a history of sexual trauma and prior sex repulsion.

The more I think about it, the more uncomfortable I am with this novella, and I don't know if I can recommend it to asexual readers starved for representation. I don't usually like to make assumptions about an author's sexual orientation, but Bender reads a lot like a story by an allosexual author who didn't do enough research on asexuality/talking to actual aces.


I also can't help thinking this because I wasn't sold on Mace and Dex's romantic chemistry at all—and though it could just be poor romance writing generally, it also strikes me as possibly "an allosexual author who wasn't sure how to write an asexual romance." Mace's feelings for Dex just seemed so...not romantic to me until it was suddenly BAM, "I'll have sex with you because I love you!" Plenty of allosexual romances develop that way, but (at the risk of generalizing about all asexuals) it strikes me as a pretty hollow and inauthentic portrayal of romance from an asexual's point of view. [To be clear, Mace isn't portrayed as demisexual or graysexual at all.]
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Most of us can agree than an acephobe who says "No one cares if you don't want to have sex" fundamentally doesn't understand what the definition of asexuality is.

However, what frustrates me is that in most people's rush to correct that misconception, we don't talk about how that sentence is fundamentally not true. And while asexuality does not equal celibacy, the majority of aces (based on a survey I saw) are sex-repulsed, so this is a problem that aces are more likely to face.

Simply put, it's difficult to talk about lack of sexual attraction to non-ace people, because most people simply assume romantic and sexual attraction go hand in hand and, honestly, aren't even aware there's a difference. So when talking to people about my asexuality, I—and other aces, I'm pretty sure—gloss over the details and just say, "Even if I were to fall in love with someone, I don't want to have sex with him." (Demisexual erasure plays into this as well, which is why I have to use that kind of phrasing to avoid people telling me, "Not wanting to bang strangers is totally normal! It's not a different sexuality!") Basically, while there is the internal questioning/feelings of brokenness and/or abnormality, there's relatively little external discrimination based on lack of sexual attraction per se.

A random stranger on the street probably might not care if you don't want to have sex. But family? Possibly friends? They absolutely care if you don't want to have sex. And a random stranger who knows you're asexual might care if you don't want to have sex.

This is what most of the discrimination against asexuals is rooted in. People believe having sex is a biological necessity; that having sex with your partner/spouse is a romantic necessity (and, in the case of certain religions, a moral and religious necessity); that "withholding" sex from your significant other is "selfish" or the sign of a dead relationship.

The fact that acephobes don't understand this discrimination is probably because non-ace people never have to face this. That, in itself, is fine, but then for acephobes to go on and say "I don't notice acephobia! Therefore acephobia doesn't exist!" is utter BS.
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I have bad impulse control; that's why I can't stop browsing the (horrendously named) "ace discourse" on Tumblr. Not that I purposely seek out acephobic posts—I browse ace-supportive Tumblrs to witness epic takedowns and reaffirmations, but in the process I end up seeing a lot of acephobic crap. So, to keep my sanity, I've decided to compile the most common arguments I've seen, because acephobia is literally the most circular, nonsensical, facts-hating position I've ever seen (I might even say that acephobes are worse than misogynists in this regard).

Let me note that these are not direct quotes, but I've obviously kept the substance of what people are saying intact.

The utterly illogical arguments:

  • "I don't understand what asexuality is, but let me explain why it's not a valid sexual orientation."

  • "I'm not ace, but let me explain to you how aces do not face any sort of oppression."

  • Alternatively: "I'm ace and I've personally never experienced negative reactions for being ace, therefore I can speak for all aces that no ace faces oppression/discrimination for being ace."

  • "I have never asked a Straight [cisgender + heterosexual + heteroromantic] person what they think of asexuals, but I can say with 100% certainty that Straight people consider heteroromantic [and aromantic] aces Straight."

  • "Aromantic aces are Straight because they don't experience attraction to anyone. What do you mean that's not what the definition of 'straight' is."

  • "Aces are not discriminated against in the exact same way I, a cis gay/lesbian/bisexual, am discriminated against, therefore aces are not 'Oppressed Enough' to be part of the LGBT- community."

  • "I once identified as ace and later realized it was only due to internalized homophobia; therefore no person can ever identify as asexual because they're WRONG and 'repressing' their 'true selves.' I cannot comprehend the idea that people may experience sexual attraction differently from how I do."

  • "Aces don't feel suicidal because of their sexual orientation, because I personally cannot imagine that to be possible." [I am not kidding, this is something I had to read with my own two eyes.]

  • "Asexuality is a horrible concept because it inherently sexualizes non-ace people by assuming non-ace people are banging every stranger they meet on the street. I refuse to listen to aces who try to explain to me that that's not what asexuality means or what aces assume about non-ace people."

  • "Asexuality is a horrible concept to teach to children/teenagers because it inherently sexualizes children, despite the fact that most of the world recognizes that teenagers can and do have sex starting from 13/14/15 years old."

  • "We need to keep heteroromantic and aromantic aces out of the LGBT community because they're actually Straight and will make our spaces unsafe! That's why A should stand for 'Ally'—we will let in all cis + heteroromantic + heterosexual people on the off-chance that some of them might be closeted!"

  • "I'm a young cis gay/lesbian person who is angry because of the homophobia I've had to deal with from Straight people in real life. I hate Straight people. Let me vent my anger not at Actually Straight people, because there will be consequences for that, but at asexual people I've deemed to be 'basically Straight' and therefore my oppressors, despite the fact that asexuals constitute a minority of the population and don't have any institutional power to oppress me."


The "OP is clearly just a horrendous person" "arguments":

  • "I've seen a few ace people say homophobic/racist/sexist/transphobic/ableist things, therefore the ENTIRE ace community is SIGNIFICANTLY MORE homophobic/racist/sexist/transphobic/ableist than any other community, therefore aces must be kept out of the LGBT- community to keep it safe. But TERFs can remain because they're cis lesbians who belong."

  • "An ace person disagrees with me, a cis gay/lesbian, when I tell them that they don't face oppression. They are being homophobic."

  • "I've just said a bunch of acephobic things but I am mentally ill, therefore an ace person who takes issue with what I'm saying is being an ableist Horrible Person." [I, a fellow mentally ill person, am disgusted people are using their mental illness as an excuse to avoid any kind of accountability for the things they're saying.]

  • "No ace has ever been sexually assaulted for being ace [i.e., because their rapist was trying to 'make' them not ace]; aces are only sexually assaulted because of misogyny. Men and nonbinary people are never sexually assaulted. OR: Cis male aces are also sexually assaulted due to misogyny."

  • "Asexuality is INHERENTLY homophobic. Gay aces and lesbian aces don't exist, or they're repressing their sexual attraction due to internalized homophobia. Conclusion: I don't give a damn about the gay and lesbian aces who force/will force themselves into sexual situations they don't want because they think they 'can't be ace,' or who are abused by their same-gender partners for being ace, or whose same-gender partners leave them for being ace." [Yes, this is kind of a repeat of another point above, but I had to reiterate it because of how abhorrent this "argument" is.]

  • "Asexual people are telling me that my acephobic statements are hurting them emotionally/inciting them to self-harm or suicidal thoughts. I don't care because acephobia doesn't exist."

  • "Asexuals are not hated by people for being ace!" *acephobes proceed to loudly proclaim that they hate aces, to say they wish aces would die/suicide-bait aces, and to create entire blogs solely dedicated to hating and mocking aces*

  • "How dare aces use the term 'come out.' That is appropriating language from gays/lesbians/bisexuals and it is insulting to see aces compare their experiences to being gay/lesbian/bisexual, because it's not like asexuality is a sexual orientation that differs from the heterosexual norm or anything."


The straight-up recycled biphobia/transphobia/homophobia arguments (yes, really):

  • "Aces are Straight Oppressors who are only 'claiming' to be LGBTQ so they can infiltrate our safe spaces and make them unsafe."

  • "Heteroromantic aces look Straight to Straight people, therefore they're Straight because they have straight-passing privilege."

  • "Gay, lesbian, bisexual, pansexual, trans, and/or nonbinary aces can be part of the LGBT community, but heteroromantic and aromantic aces are not Gay Enough to belong."

  • "No one needs to know what you *don't* do in the bedroom." / "Saying you're asexual is TMI about your sex life." / "Why do you even need to come out as asexual? No one wants to know."

  • "By providing information about asexuality, aces are 'coercing' children into identifying as ace, and this corruption deception is predatory and gross."

  • "If asexuals are oppressed, then so are pedophiles!"

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Part 1

One thing is that a lot of Tumblr people say "the specter of cis heteroromantic aces is a bogeyman, since, according to an AVEN survey, hetero aces make up less than 1/4 of the ace community, and there are barely any hetero aces on Tumblr! [same goes for aromantic heterosexuals, although there are no numbers for aros]"

So, I mean...I don't want to center the ace community on hetero aces (although I've kind of been forced to by the acephobia), but...I sort of wonder about this claim.

That hetero aces could be a minority of aces, I think is reasonable, but I *do* think that the lack of presence of hetero aces and aro hets on Tumblr isn't necessarily indicative of real numbers.

The thing is, hetero aces and aro hets are most likely to face erasure and not know of their sexual orientations. For one, those hetero aces and aro hets who genuinely don't feel like they experience discrimination...aren't identifying as ace/aro, they're identifying as straight. For another, asexuality, despite what some Tumblr people might think, is still not well known among the straight population at large; therefore, the average person out there is most likely to think, "Hey, I [a person with a binary gender] experience romantic OR sexual attraction to the gender opposite mine, therefore I must be straight!" As for their missing romantic or sexual attraction, they'll probably assume "Oh, I'm just a late bloomer" or "I just need to find the right person."

(I'm speaking from personal experience here, as a person who was 100% certain I was straight before realizing I was actually heteroromantic ace. [Although now I'm not even sure I'm heteroromantic ace and think I might be hetero-aro-spec, if that's possible.])

Plus, there are other, more general factors that impede realization that someone could be asexual: for example, gender stereotypes (women are expected to be sexually passive; a man may not want to admit to himself or others that he doesn't experience sexual attraction due to the hypersexual masculine "ideal"). Also, it's extraordinarily difficult to identify a lack of something. An asexual who likes sex, or at least is neutral towards sex, for instance, may not realize they don't actually experience sexual attraction. Same with an aromantic.

I suspect the population of hetero aces (not sure about aro hets) is larger than has been counted, because a few times when I've seen "Asexual Men 101" posts on the internet, I've seen a bunch of comments from men who talk about how they've always wondered why they've never felt sexual attraction or the urge to do something sexual with a woman. They're most likely not on Tumblr, and I'm guessing they're not even aware of AVEN.

As for the lack of hetero aces on Tumblr...well, with the acephobic culture on Tumblr being what it is currently, what hetero ace would be confident enough to be out? (I certainly am not.)
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If not for the fact that I need a DCEU-positive and Marvel-critical space, I probably would've quit Tumblr and never looked back, because boy has that site become horribly toxic and off-putting.

Case in point: a recent baffling intra-LGBT debate that has become incredibly vicious and toxic, arguing that "cishet" asexuals (by which they mean cis heteroromantic asexuals, and cis aromantic asexuals for some bizarre reason) and "cishet" aromantics (cis aromantic heterosexuals) don't belong in the LGBT community, since they're "actually Straight." Except oftentimes the acephobes/aphobes don't distinguish clearly enough between whom they're attacking and just throw all asexuals under the bus.

Complicating matters is the fact that aces have been split in the debate, with some homo/bi/panromantic aces also claiming that "cishet" aces shouldn't be part of the LGBT community. Basically, if this "discourse" has been successful, it's that it has splintered the asexual community. (Which, incidentally, has made it harder for the asexual community to police its own since it has become so scattered—as this is a frequent criticism I have seen from acephobes who claim that somehow the asexual community is more racist, homophobic, ableist, etc. than the general population.) I have even seen an asexual arguing to redefine asexuality in order to make it more palatable to allosexuals (including non-straight acephobes) which is...um...what?

It's baffling because, as far as I know, this toxic debate is entirely on Tumblr only, and many LGBTQ+ communities are actually welcoming of ace and aro people in real life.

It's also baffling that there are non-ace/aro LGBT people claiming "cishet" aces/aros are Straight, but none of them actually cite a cis heteroromantic heterosexual person saying "Oh yeah, het aces/aros are straight." Even though, you know, you have to be considered straight by straight people to be Actually Straight. And reading posts from a lot of heteroromantic aces makes it clear that they often don't feel welcome by straight people.

In case my own position isn't clear: cis heteroromantic asexuals, cis aromantic asexuals, and cis aromantic heterosexuals are NOT STRAIGHT. Calling aces/aros "cishet" is already a microaggression (that has unfortunately spread even to people who are not acephobic or arophobic) because "cishet" has been used to refer to cis heteroromantic and heterosexual people, a.k.a. Straight people. And if you're ace or aro, you automatically don't fulfill those three criteria.

So acephobes go around claiming "cishet" aces don't experience discrimination (if they remember to distinguish between hetero aces and other aces in the first place), and then they aggressively attack aces (or, perplexingly, people they perceive to be "cishet" aces, who are often not even ace, aro, cis, or straight in the first place), gaslight them, harass them, and even send death threats to them just for being ace. I mean, irony much? Hell, I had the *audacity* to make a post on my Tumblr (where I have literally less than 10 followers) about how I found acephobia upsetting, and then I got a message from an acephobe telling me to delete my Tumblr. I'm not even joking about this.

Plus, it is incredibly heartbreaking that I have to read posts like these from "Evil 'Cishet' Aces" who have been driven to self harm/suicidal ideation/suicide attempts because they feel broken due to heterosexism and yet have been deemed "actually Straight" by acephobes. Newsflash: if your "social justice movement" is causing people to self-harm and consider suicide, you're not a social justice movement, you're actively oppressing people.

I am one of those Evil "Cishet" Aces* as well (*I mean, I prefer not to identify as heteroromantic ace anymore just because my gender and romantic identities are a bit more wobbly than that, but hey, it's not like acephobes would care). I am fortunate not to have experienced corrective rape, abuse, or mental health problems as a result of my sexual orientation, as many other aces have. However, these are the fun things I've had to deal with:

  • Constantly having my identity invalidated and constantly being infantilized by being told "I'm just too young to know" and "I'll like sex when I actually have it" (FYI: I'm in my mid-twenties).

  • Being told "I'll never get a boyfriend" if I keep insisting I'm asexual and being told that I shouldn't talk about my asexuality if I'm dating a guy.

  • Having to field intrusive questions from my parents about my lack of sex life when I was in a relationship (and my sister, who is also ace and also in a relationship, has to deal with the same).

  • Receiving confused and disbelieving reactions when I say that I'm asexual but still want to marry a man some day ("How is that possible?").

  • As a result of the above, constantly being afraid of not being able to find a romantic partner who will accept my asexuality.

  • Not feeling represented in media, even though pop culture shows m/w relationships everywhere, due to how ubiquitous sexual attraction is in relationships in fiction/on screen.

  • Struggling and failing to reconcile media/culture's message that "sex is great and everyone wants to have it, especially in the context of a loving relationship" with my own complete lack of sexual attraction or desire for sex. This led to my internalizing certain nonconsensual dynamics as what "normal, loving sex" looks like (it's only by luck that I never ended up in a sexually coercive relationship before I learned what asexuality was).

You'll probably notice that none of this happens to straight (cis heteroromantic and heterosexual) people.

Basically: Tumblr is a weird place, and LGBT people who want to exclude aces/aros have a lot of misplaced anger, but instead of directing that anger at straight people (the people they're actually angry at), they use it to punch down on a community that's still struggling for visibility and acceptance and confused teenagers trying to figure out their identities.
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All the Wrong Places

I'm familiar with Ann Gallagher's writings as erotica writer L. A. Witt, so I was kind of wondering whether she could pull off an asexual romance without falling into the usual gross acephobic pitfalls. I'm happy to say in this case I was proven completely wrong.

First, I want to get the cons out of the way. The climax felt somewhat rushed, and the book seemed primed to make a powerful statement about acephobia, but ultimately glossed over it. I don't expect or necessarily want books about asexuality to always deal with acephobia, but given that right now, a vocal subset of people still believes asexuals aren't "oppressed" enough to be part of the LGBTQ community, it would have been nice to have a discussion of the insidious ways asexuals face prejudice.

(*Also, it occurred to me upon a reread that the definition of graysexual in the book seems not entirely accurate—if I read correctly, the author explains graysexual as being sex-neutral, but the standard definition (although graysexual is sometimes used as a catch-all term) is that graysexual refers to someone who experiences sexual attraction rarely.)

However.

I've been waiting a long time to read about explicitly asexual characters in fiction.

I've been waiting a long time to read a book about asexuality that acknowledges the diversity of the asexual spectrum.

And I'd basically given up hope that I would ever be able to read a romance between asexual characters that wouldn't portray the romance as inferior just because the characters don't have sex.

So hats off to Ann Gallagher for writing a book about asexual characters that was so well-researched and relatable, I was nodding and grinning the whole time I was reading the book. I can't recommend this book enough to anyone looking for a book about asexual characters with a sweet asexual romance, or even anyone who doesn't know much about asexuality but wants to learn. (And hats off as well for writing an interracial homoromantic asexual relationship!)


Lead Me Not

An interesting story about an antigay preacher (who turns out to be so deeply closeted he doesn't even realize it) who ends up developing a relationship with a religious gay bartender with a troubled past. Though I finished the book thinking it was just okay, I do think the romance was sweet and the book was a nice, feel-good read.

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